hefewiezen

topic posted Sun, May 15, 2005 - 3:33 PM by  mateo
hi. i'm brewing a paulaner hefe clone out of clonebrews. i was wondering if anyone out there who brewed a hefe could tell me if it's typical for a white film to form over the beer while in the secondary fermenter. it also appears that there are bubbles forming under this film that have yet to pop. if this isn't typical, i think i blew it. thanks for your help.
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mateo
  • Re: hefewiezen

    Sun, May 15, 2005 - 10:22 PM
    you can get some levels of continued fermentation in the second fermenter, so i wouldn't worry. stilling everything up by transferring it to another fermenter.. in thios case your second, can get some process to start again. i brew these types of beers all the time and i wouldn't be worried at this point. when you decide to bottle, try some of it.. it should already taste a lot like one, even tho it is still a tad immature. also, taste from the middle, not the bottom. if you tast any strong off flavors here, you might have an issue. please report back!
    • Re: hefewiezen

      Mon, May 16, 2005 - 3:06 PM
      thanks. it's been sitting in the secondary for quite a while. i just didn't have time to bottle it yet. usually when i transfer, something happens fairly quickly, so maybe this one is just taking some time. thanks again, i'll let you know what happens.
      • Re: hefewiezen

        Mon, May 16, 2005 - 4:50 PM
        how long has it been sitting there? have you taken any hydrometer readings? be very careful about letting it sit too long. i left a batch in a secondary fermenter too long once and the yeast went dormant. when i primed/bottled, there was not enough active yeast left to stimulate a good carbonation. also, there were many off flavors as a result. it was actually the only beer i have ever brewed that didn't work out. watch this one carefully and bottle as soon as you can.
        • Re: hefewiezen

          Mon, May 16, 2005 - 5:18 PM
          thanks for the advice. it's probably been sitting in the secondary for maybe a month now. i'll get on it this week and see what happens.
          • Re: hefewiezen

            Tue, May 17, 2005 - 12:00 AM
            oh wow, thats WAY too long. the beer is prolly a goner. try if you want, but i'd really be wondering what is growing on it at this point. i can't imagine the yeast still being of much worth at this point.

            anybody else got any insight here?
            • Re: hefewiezen

              Tue, May 17, 2005 - 9:25 AM
              Sort of depends on how robust the yeast is. I have let batches sit for 2 months that turned out fine, no problem carbonating. I also brew mead a lot and have succeeded in getting sparkling mead without adding more yeast after 6 months of fermentation.

              I agree, the taste test is key. Just don't be put off by the banana clove spiciness that is normal for this style. I rarely like an immature wheat- it usually has to condition for at least 3 weeks before I find it drinkable.
            • Re: hefewiezen

              Sun, June 26, 2005 - 12:55 PM
              well, i bottled it and it was a success! it tastes almost like paulaner hefe. whew! lesson learned: don't waste time. thanks for all your help. matt
  • Re: hefewiezen

    Sat, October 15, 2005 - 4:38 PM
    I made a batch of this but I added honey to the wert, bad idea, super-carbonated, sounded like a gun-shot when i opened bottles. It tasted good but I lost alot in the foam overflow. Also you should serve wheat beer with a lemon slice, but you already know that, right?
    • Re: hefewiezen

      Sat, October 22, 2005 - 9:55 AM
      well, in the united states a lemon slice is common. you never serve a southern german hefeweizen with lemon. it would be bad form. in munich, they would probably ask that you replace it. haha.
      • Re: hefewiezen

        Sun, October 23, 2005 - 9:32 AM
        sometimes if i order a hefe, the bartender asks if i want a lemon, i ususally say yes but drink about half of it without the lemon to see what it's like and then add it. although i rarely do add it. i think a lot of hefe's taste great alone like paulaner, franziskaner and weihenstephaner.
        • Re: hefewiezen

          Mon, October 24, 2005 - 7:37 PM
          well, those are the southern german ones that wouldn't need it. i personally think that most american hefeweizens taste like a different beer than the real ones, and need the lemon. a good german beer doesn't need that kind of doctoring =]
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            Re: hefewiezen

            Tue, October 25, 2005 - 8:45 AM
            There were places in Vienna, up in the vineyards that served great hefeweizens, and they always had the slice of lemon in it. I did not mind, usually I was stopping on a hike to get a beer and relax for a bit. If my memory is right though it was not the big wedges you get in most places, but more like a thin slice, so just a light flavor of the lemon.
            • Re: hefewiezen

              Wed, October 26, 2005 - 12:13 AM
              i was fortunate enough to meet rob widmer (creator of widmer hefe) and he suggests taking a lemon slice and swirling it around the rim of the glass, then tossing the lemon. i think that's what he did anyway. the beer was flowing pretty good that day...

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